HomeMy WebLinkAbout12-30-1986 Special Council Minutes 129 '
A special meeting of the Canton City Council was held on '
December 30th, 1986 in Council Chambers. '
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OPENED THE MEETING FOLLOWED BY THE
INVOCATION GIVEN BY CITY CLERK NANCY WHITES.
Mayor Edwards asked for roll call at 6:30 p.m. Present:
Aldermen Kovachevich, Zilly, Steck, Sarff, Workman, Bohler, '
May, Chapman. Absent: None. '
PURPOSE OF THE SPECIAL MEETING WAS READ AND STATED AS FOLLOWS: ~
1. Consider and take final action on: '
a. An Ordinance approving City of Canton Tax Increment
area No.3 Redevelopment Plan and Redevelopment ,
Project;
b. An Ordinance Designating City of Canton Tax
O Increment Area No. 3;
c. An Ordinance adopting Tax Increment Financing.
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~ 2. Consider and take action on the written and verbal
= status report(s) from IPRI. ,
m Jim Burke President of IPRI gave the following report. Plant
Q modifications are nearly completed with about 5 days work ,
left to get the plant into production. Our chemical supplier, ,
Valley Chemical Co. Pekin has graciously agreed to supply
and carry us which helps alleviate the financial outlays
reguired to get into production.
We signed up another investor yesterday and have meetings
scheduled for tomorrow and next week with several local
potential investors. We prefer tp issue stock to bring in ,
many small local investors and retain control of the company
right here in Canton, where jobs can be created and added '
as the company grows, rather than have a large company take
a controlling interest and pack it up and leave town.
We are also discussing the idea of a partial or total
refinancing of our fixed debt plus additional working capital.
This of course would mean at least some retirement of our
principal debt with the city.
I would anticipate that between income from production,
and additional stock sales, IPR will make a substantial payment
to the city within the next 60 days towards our indebtnesses.
Our accountant is preparing a financial report which will
be finished and sent to the city within the next several days.
If it goes thru we would be paying off the HHS funds. In
order to get the title to the building free and clear.
As you know, Jim Schoenhard and I met with General Electric '
Co. at their request, on December 17th in Pittsfield Mass.
The G.E. officials did not ask us to sign non disclosure
agreements, but they did ask us to hold the information they
divulged to us in confidence. They are not interested in '
acquiring IPR. They are interested in what the Canton Plan '
can do for G.E. once they have completed their project research
and made a final decision. It is aii-ricipated there will be
several more meetings between oficials of the two companies.
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Motion by Alderman Workman, second by Alderman Chapman, we
extend future credit to IPRI with payment due in 60 days.
Alderman Sarff was wanting a clarification to the portion,
as to payment not being made for 60 days. Alderman Workman
felt that they would have the answers in 60 days and can't
tell us anything two weeks from now. Voice vote, motion
carried.
Mayor Edwards stated that the council was in special session
to consider action on ordinances which would allow a TIF
District in the area of the Tempo store. The first order
of business would be the suspension of rules, then consider
a motion for passage and then enter into discussion.
The public hearing is closed, were not asking for public input,
but we may be asking questions of those in the audience.
Motion by Alderman Sarff, second by Alderman May the suspension
of the rules for the purpose of placing the 3 ordinances on
their passage. Roll call. AYES - Aldermen Chapman, May,
, Bohler, Workman, Sarff, Steck, Zilly, Kovachevich. NAYS -
None. Motion carried.
Alderman Kovachevich clarified his vote, he stated he never
votes for suspension of the rules but felt this was an important
issue and voted aye.
ORDINANCE - APPROVING CITY OF CANTON TAX INCREMENT AREA NO.
3 REDEVELOMENT PLAN AND REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT. First reading,
read by title. Motion by Alderman Sarff, second by Alderman
Bohler, the ordinance be placed on its passage. Discussion.
Mayor Edwards reported that the ordinance that is on the table
is probably one of the more pressured ordinances that this
council will face or probably ever face in this community.
The recommendation from the chair is going to be for passage.
Close to 6 years now I've been mayor of this town and we've
worked night and day weekends, almost full time trying to
recruit new industry into this community as well as new
business. If this one is wrong, than CIC is wrong, IPRI is
wrong, the Industrial Corporation is wrong, the state prison
is wrong, right down the line, because this community has
spent countless hours trying to recruit new business to this
community. You will look at the surrounding towns of Havana,
Macomb, Galesburg, Creve Couer, Pekin, Washington, Peoria,
their all doing what the state legislatures gave them the
tools to do up until midnight tomorrow night for passing TIF
Districts. This is not an accident that this is available.
This was done purposely to create new interest in the state
of Illinois. Our own Representatives and Senators worked
on this. The governor signed this at the Illinois Municipal
League convention so that he would have all the communities
throught Illinois present. This is a piece of legislation
to spark the economy in Illinois. We usually do nothing,
but if we do nothing were going to be the hole in the doughnut.
And the surrounding communities that have the initiative to
form these districts is going to be selling their products
similarly cheaper than here in Fulton County. Probably more
research has been done on this ordinance this evening than
most other ordinances that have been presented.
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Yesterday a telephone survey was done by Rhonda Vogel my
secretary. Not knowing the people she was calling and not ~
identifying the people. The results are pretty much what y
I expected, the citizens in the community want an opportunity '
to buy their groceries as cheap as they do in Pekin, Peoria,
Macomb and Galesburg. The survey is available. Every ward '
carried on this sample calling, I realize ten people from '
each ward shouldn't represent the whole ward. My recommendation
is we pass these ordinances. I'll now open the meeting up ;
for discussion.
Alderman Sarff stated that the last two weeks with the exception
of Christmas Day I probably spent 2 hours a day average in ;
calling with personal discussion on this topic. Just after
the public hearing almost 1000 of my calls were in opposition
~ to the TIF District. And I wondered if I was getting a good
~ cross section of the population in my ward and since the
~ property is in my ward, and the only ward that does not have
= a grocery store.
~ I took my copies of petitions of interested parties from over
Q the last 5 years with what ever they were presenting me with.
I felt since they were active at one point, possibly they
would be interested in this one. I took the names and numbers
of people in my ward, I was a little more specific in my ~
question. As almost in every case when I found out what their
feelings was I took the opposite side, I felt I could argue '
either side with equal confidence. And what I found out from
everyone I talked to would like to see a store built and this
type of operation. But this is the only indication that my
personal preference has to be set aside to represent that
of what I feel is a representative sample of the people in
my ward. And with their opinion and the input supplied by
the Day & Palin Corporation concerning the need and projected
income from this type of operation in that property, I think
it can be done without a TIF District. I think there's ample '
customer response out there and this is only Canton. I think
it can make ago without the TIF District. I think the people
in my ward would support a store rather it had the TIF advantage
or not.
Alderman Steck said he took it upon himself to make several
phone calls the day after I received the survey from the city.
I felt the question that was asked was a good question, just
needed a little more information and I added more information.
I had 6 against and 2 in favor of it, and the others said
they could go either way. The biggest draw back for those
all against was the 3~ TIF District. I also took it upon
myself to make a trip to Pekin and surveyed the County Market
store and took prices of 9 items. I also went to the Kroger
store in Pekin and took the same 9 items. There was only
a 4~ difference in the price between the 2 stores. They were
considerably cheaper than the stores in Canton. I agree with
the survey that we receive from the TUI price comparsion.
The grocery stores in the City of Canton should wake up with
their prices, there's no doubt about that. I talked to several
people who do their shopping outside the City of Canton and
their biggest reason is the prices. So I personally can not
support it at the 3~ level, and that's the reason.
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Alderman Zilly said that 99~ of her phone calls that she had
prior to today were people who were opposed to this and today
I had several phone calls and all were for it. However, they
~ did not realize anything about the TIF District or the 3%.
They were strictly for having a grocery store in an empty
building without understanding the rest of the details.
I do have a problem with 3~ financing. I would love to see
a non conventional food store come to town, and I would love
to see that building filled, but I can't go along with this
concept, because I think its going to hurt more people than
its going to do good. And I'm also havinq trouble designating
this whole area as a blighted area, because there is a gas
station there that's modern and a modern restaurant, and I
think its a very loose interpretation of what a blighted area
should be.
+ Alderman Rovachevich stated that he also took a survey in
his ward. I asked most of them if they buy their groceries
out of town? And they said yes, they did. What I wonder
' about is how the TIF Districts of Creve Couer are going to
affect us if we don't approve it. I know its a very difficult
decision. How is it going to effect any new business if we
do go against this. We've got to go with the projections
we've received.
' Alderman Workman said he had 5 calls this morning. And upon
questioning, found out they were all from the same place,
Maple Manor. They expressed their desire to have this type
of market. And they expressed the thought that they would
be able to get those groceries cheaper. Than I considered
the point there, we all know that its for relative low-income
; people. Then later on in the day it reversed itself, I got
5 calls of people who were definitely opposed to it. They
exchanged their thoughts that the interest concept was entirely
wrong and that the city had know business involving itself
in to helping the finance. They ask the question, well, if
the city is qoing to have to raise taxes to pay its bills,
what are we doing given the money back to this particular
person. That was my cue for the day.
Mayor Edwards said there is a big difference, but will go
' on.
Alderman Bohler said everything's been pretty much said. I've
had alot of calls for and against. One of the things I'd
like to say...for myself I'm not for this for many reasons
that would take along time to explain them all. Hopefully
the citizens of Canton would think were not voting against
this type of store as it is a good idea.
Alderman May said that over the holidays out to the store
I had lots of them in. I ask about everyone of them about
this and they didn't know what it meant. I had to tell them
what it meant. Alot of them said they wanted it and more
than ~ of them said they didn't want it. I got calls at home
at night when I was in bed, and wanted to know what I thought
about it. I asked them what was their idea? And they told
me they didn't want it. So, I'm going to have to vote no.
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Alderman Chapman said as you probably know we took a survey ;
by a voting thing in the stores. It came out about like WBYS
survey, half for and half against. It really makes the decision ,
hard, but as far as my own personal feelings, I would like
to see a store out there as I'd like to see something done
with the buildings. But then on the other hand when I was
in business for myself I couldn't get no 3~ money. And I'm
afraid I'll have to go against it. My phone calls have been
against it all the way.
Mayor Edwards said I think the real thing lacking here is '
leadership. Each one of you have said you are going based I~,
upon people being against it. And I think what you really
need to do is say I was elected to lead this community. And
when we come back with some of Palin's proqrams, don't forget ,
that when people say you've kept everybody out of Canton for
many years that each one of you had an opportunity to sit
0 here and vote. Because your going to hear that over and over
~ again. I've heard it for twenty years, its going to be on
~ your conscience.
= Alderman Sarff said he agreed with everything the mayor said,
m that's why he took the time to get what he felt was a better
Q sample then he would get if people were calling him. Because
personally I'm in favor of it. But I was elected to represent
the majority of people in my ward.
Mayor Edwards said that means I should be against it to, because
I was elected to represent the majority of people in the
community.
Alderman Sarff said it took alot of convincing for me to vote
against the way I prefer. Normally know one calls me on a
given topic, its upto me to decide what would be the best
for the people in my ward. In this case, I felt it was the
way to go. I've got enough people that I feel I can rely
on for their judgement as a cross section that I don't think
I can change my vote as I personally feel.
Mayor Edwards said I definitely feel that each one of you
must vote the way you feel. You have to! But I'm going to
publicly embarrass Alderman May, because when I appointed
him he said know matter what comes to this town I will be
for it. Alderman May said I did? Mayor Edwards said you
certainly did! Alderman May said I sure did. But this is
something I can't see. Mayor Edwards said I know, its the
first thing you've had to vote on that took courage.
Alderman Steck wanted to know if it was to late to amend any
of the ordinances? Jim Malmgren City Attorney said no, the
ordinances can be amended at any time prior to voting. With
the respect to the Redevelopment Plan and Project, particularly
since Alderman Zilly questioned about the area that is purposed
encompass, that can also be change upto the time you take
final action.
Alderman Steck said since its been his people that's been
against it at the 3$ level.
Motion by Alderman Steck to amend the ordinance from 3~ to
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Jim Malmgren City Attorney said the motion should be to amend
the Redevelopment Plan and Redevelopment Project.
Mayor Edwards said we should ask Mr. Palin what this does
to the project? Mr. Palin's comments were, there certainly
has been a misconception on the 3~ money. We can look at
' that in many different ways. We have looked at that because
of the way the statute reads. One of the things you can do
in a TIF District is to buy interest down. It is not a loan,
it is not a 3~ loan, its a commercial loan. The money that
we have requested gives us a break even point and its necessary
to have. When we look at that as land development cost, when
we look at as interest buy down, it still requires the same
amount of mone f or the ro ' ect to f 1 .
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Mayor Edwards asked if it wouldn fly if its (ordinance)
amended? Mr. Palin said, "no sir."
Mayor Edwards said if this is not going to work I think maybe
were creating a monster by putting in a TIF area. Because
then we have to follow thru with it or dissolve it. We already
have $2,000 in this ordinance. If its going to be killed
then I think it should be killed good and clean. Motion
withdrawn.
Alderman May stated that when he was appointed he told the
mayor he was not a yes man. I won't lie to you. Have I ever
lied to you? Mayor Edwards said he didn't know, but this
is not the place to discuss it.
Alderman Kovachevich said he would have to vote the way he
felt by the majority of his constituents he represents.
Roll call. AYES - Alderman Kovachevich. NAYS - Aldermen
Zilly, Steck, Sarff, Workman, Bohler, May, Chapman. 1 AYE
7 NAYS 0 ABSENT. Motion defeated.
ORDINANCE - DESIGNATING CITY OF CANTON TAX INCREMENT AREA
N0.3. First reading, read by title. Motion by Alderman Sarff,
second by Alderman Zilly the ordinance be placed on its passage.
Roll call. AYES - Alderman Kovachevich. NAYS - Aldermen
Chapman, May, Bohler, Workman, Sarff, Steck, Zilly. 1 AYE
7 NAYS 0 ABSENT. Motion defeated.
ORDINANCE - ADOPTING TAX INCREMENT FINANCING. First reading,
read by title. Motion by Alderman Sarff, second by Alderman
Chapman, the ordinance be placed on its passage. AYES -
Alderman Kovachevich. NAYS - Aldermen Zilly, Steck, Sarff,
Workman, Bohler, May, Chapman. 1 AYE 7 NAYS 0 ABSENT. Motion
defeated.
ADJOURNMENT - Motion by Alderman Sarff, second by Alderman
May to adjourn. Voice vote, motion carried. Council adjourned
at 7:08 p.m.
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C Y CLERK
APPROVED:.
MAYOR